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  2-May-18, 00:41   #81
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maragatero 
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Okay, I recognize it, I couln´t be a good judge. I should to say that I don´t play like they, and I don´t understand how they conform to only recover their money when they arrive to the last table. Have no sense for me. But there are people who likes royalty....perhaps I don´t like too much things! Big Smile

     
  2-May-18, 18:50   #82
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ligador37 

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I believe that people overestimate AA. That is to say, they are the best starting hand, but neither are they invincible, and if one plays badly (such as limping the hand and allowing several players to enter the pot), they can easily lose. I think that's what people think they are hands they can never lose, and they play badly. But it's just my opinion.

@Maragatero:
Posted by maragatero:
It is the same to play any two pair of cards and win against AA, that happen but it isn't a good playing.



About this, I do not agree. It does not have to be this way. Like I said, maybe the player who has AA plays badly; or you do not have to do it and another player if you play your cards well. I think it's wrong to say that any player who wins another Pocket AA player has played badly. Or maybe I did not understand what you meant.

     
  4-May-18, 00:22   #83
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maragatero 
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Dear neightborhooder, when I started this thread I was trying to trace the thin line that separates the gamblers to the players. Ithough (You know yet that I don´t be a good player or a theoricer) that if you play aganist the probabilities you are gambling. You are making a bet, no a logical poker´s move. And I talk about this in the particular case that a rebuy´s tournament.
But this thread becomes in a good space to talk about a lot of things...and it´s welcome! Blink

     
  4-May-18, 16:32   #84
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CALICUL 
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Let me tell you how does the rebuys work in 888 poker. This days are satellites for many tournaments Big Fish. For some tournaments i made 5 rebuys and 3 add-ons. 888 Poker thanked me personally with one pot in every 60 hands, 80 hands or 109 hands. I think is very fake these games and the name of Big Fish tells everything you need to know... Angry I only succeeded in two qualifying for anothers satellites but i lost. Good job 888. Evil

     
  4-May-18, 19:52   #85
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pajalnick 

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Posted by CALICUL:
Let me tell you how does the rebuys work in 888 poker. This days are satellites for many tournaments Big Fish. For some tournaments i made 5 rebuys and 3 add-ons. 888 Poker thanked me personally with one pot in every 60 hands, 80 hands or 109 hands. I think is very fake these games and the name of Big Fish tells everything you need to know... Angry I only succeeded in two qualifying for anothers satellites but i lost. Good job 888. Evil

I played today in freeroll on the ticket of the Big Fish .... it's just funny .... at the beginning of the freeroll in the player 1000 and for rebuy in 1 cent add 5000 ..... when I realized this I laughed a little ... 888poker wants to entice players who have a few cents on their account the last money .... really Big Fish Big Smile

     
  5-May-18, 02:23   #86
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maragatero 
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And what about the handshake between Moon Jae-in and Kim Jong-un?
Don´t you think that they let Trump´s strategy far away?
They change all the war preparations and open a new way for them and to the world. Do you think that the gun´s corporations will tolerate that their business is destroyed?
A new window to this thread Big Smile

     
  5-May-18, 16:38   #87
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CALICUL 
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You realize that Pajalnick, many have a few cents in their account with freeroll games ( this is not my case i have $ 48 in my account ) but the reality is that: are fake tournaments. Yesterday i played again and i won only a qualification in another satelllit. Of course i did not qualify and today the first satellit i lost after few hands with set 888 after flop and two opponents AT and J9. On the table 2 8 T. All in and turn & river J 7. Is grotesque especially in the last two days when i lost with ugly cards. 888 is Evil now.

     
  5-May-18, 17:33   #88
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Mober 
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I dont know what the actually prizes are from these freerolls, but a lot of players have made money,
by simply playing in one. Or even a few more Smile
You just stack your wins, giving you a good roll, to start playing ring games and small tournaments.
And then hitting the cash out button Smile

     
  5-May-18, 20:12   #89
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pajalnick 

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Posted by Mober:
I dont know what the actually prizes are from these freerolls, but a lot of players have made money,
by simply playing in one. Or even a few more Smile
You just stack your wins, giving you a good roll, to start playing ring games and small tournaments.
And then hitting the cash out button Smile

I usually rarely deposit on 888 poker .... freeroll there really is a lot ... from PokerClub you can receive every day small winnings from freerolls ... I now have 49 level ... one more level and I will be available one more freeroll ..... Of course, and the groschen in freerolls very much and win something that the big prize is difficult

     
  6-May-18, 16:39   #90
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CALICUL 
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The big prize is difficult because 888 Poker does not allow you to earn much more money in his freerolls very often. They also share the awards according to how they want to be satisfied all players. I noticed on my skin and no matter how much i want to earn more money because i can not.

     
  6-May-18, 20:18   #91
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pajalnick 

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Posted by CALICUL:
The big prize is difficult because 888 Poker does not allow you to earn much more money in his freerolls very often. They also share the awards according to how they want to be satisfied all players. I noticed on my skin and no matter how much i want to earn more money because i can not.

if in the freeroll 5000 players are playing then what a stable big win you can say ... and the blinds are growing very fast ..... so these freerolls are heavily a lottery and the winnings in them are very complicated ... I only reached once 2 places and then in a tournament for a small prize

     
  7-May-18, 12:32   #92
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maragatero 
Joined: Oct '16
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Yes, the tournaments in 888poker are very dificult, with thousand of player being rude and playing with air...but all of us play there!
I maked my bankroll there, and aren´t any site that have the lot of freeroll that there are. I found that Net Bet have a lot of freeroll too, but almost all of them are for ticket´s prize. And a $5 freeroll festival where, if you win to 100 players, you could win $ 1,50! Moderator

     
  7-May-18, 12:59   #93
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ligador37 

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I think they are not as complicated as they say. It is true, there are enough people and the prize can be very little if it does not reach the top of the final table. But coming to the winning places in several tournaments one can start to build your bankroll from there.
In other rooms, one has to sign up for tournaments of 10,000 people, for a total of $ 50 of prize money, as long as one wants to play for free...

     
  7-May-18, 16:44   #94
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CALICUL 
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I have almost same situation like you Pajalnick, with these freerolls for level in 888 poker room. I'm sure it's a software thing... and it is not for everyone's abilities & skills. I would still like a poker room where the cards come random because it is clear that this does not exist in online poker for 95% + poker rooms.

     
  7-May-18, 20:20   #95
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pajalnick 

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Posted by CALICUL:
I have almost same situation like you Pajalnick, with these freerolls for level in 888 poker room. I'm sure it's a software thing... and it is not for everyone's abilities & skills. I would still like a poker room where the cards come random because it is clear that this does not exist in online poker for 95% + poker rooms.

about the random number generator, I can tell you about my observation .... in the greater part of the hands, the player who has the most stack wins ..... of course this does not always happen but in the majority of hands ... so I do not really trust 888poker but I still play there

     
  8-May-18, 12:53   #96
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maragatero 
Joined: Oct '16
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Posted by pajalnick:
Posted by CALICUL:
I have almost same situation like you Pajalnick, with these freerolls for level in 888 poker room. I'm sure it's a software thing... and it is not for everyone's abilities & skills. I would still like a poker room where the cards come random because it is clear that this does not exist in online poker for 95% + poker rooms.

about the random number generator, I can tell you about my observation .... in the greater part of the hands, the player who has the most stack wins ..... of course this does not always happen but in the majority of hands ... so I do not really trust 888poker but I still play there

Yep, It's true when I have a little stack and it ceases to be when I´m the big stack...amazing!
I think that we don´t understand (or accept) the variance, so we wait that the cards (and the players) arrive and playing following certain logic in the framework of the probabilities. And that not exist!
The probabilties have their variances and the players have their hunches (or crazy things). I don´t think that the poker´s room make some "arrange" for make benefits to some players. This isn´t their business...
But, if we notes that some poker´s room be doing that... Spank

     
  8-May-18, 16:44   #97
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CALICUL 
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Saturday at the freeroll for level 50 i did 50 k and i won only a dollar and 60 cents because these blinds at 3 minutes made a player to go all in with bad cards and another who was in the big blind with 2 8. I had AK or AQ and i lost. 2 and 8 winner. This happen to me very often with players in big blind and almost always i lose with them. This year, it looks like the system is changing and it's worse than before but i will try to play more aggressively and with freerolls games i will play bad cards in some situations. Maybe it is what you say and the system is not arranged. Smile

     
  8-May-18, 18:07   #98
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ligador37 

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Do not fall into their game! Keep playing as always. I agree that you should play more aggressively in tournaments where the blinds advance fast, but do not play any hand either. In those tournaments what you have to do is wait 1 or 2 hands, which will allow you to double your stack at the beginning, and thus form a stack that allows you to control the rest of the tournament.

     
  9-May-18, 13:59   #99
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maragatero 
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Posted by CALICUL:
Saturday at the freeroll for level 50 i did 50 k and i won only a dollar and 60 cents because these blinds at 3 minutes made a player to go all in with bad cards and another who was in the big blind with 2 8. I had AK or AQ and i lost. 2 and 8 winner. This happen to me very often with players in big blind and almost always i lose with them. This year, it looks like the system is changing and it's worse than before but i will try to play more aggressively and with freerolls games i will play bad cards in some situations. Maybe it is what you say and the system is not arranged. Smile

Yes CALICUL, I think that is a good plan. Obviously is better to play with good cards, and we could wait it for some hands, but we couldn´t play ONLY with a good two! I´m practicing a "rithm" strategy with a big menu of option that include (if that is the moment) a push with any two. Don´t works always, but it´s more funny! Big Smile

     
  9-May-18, 20:37   #100
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pajalnick 

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today ... more precisely, I just finished playing in the tournament at 888 poker 12000 Pirate .... that's where the meat grinder really is .... 15000 odd players and everyone is trying to get the grand prize of $ 600 ... I missed a few opportunities as I wanted to get into the prizes and eventually entered the number of 771 players - 3.60 dollars

     
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